• Re: Most memorable modern

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Saturday, May 31, 2025 11:10:00
    The "answer" to all of that, by the Left, is to increase taxes on all of
    us, rather than STOPPING the corruption and blatant mis-management.
    That's a problem for me. <SHRUG>

    Me also. Lately, the knee-jerk reaction to the corruption and
    mis-management is to pull the plugs on the programs all together, which
    still does nothing to the politicians who were abusing them while hurting
    those that actually did benefit.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Saturday, June 07, 2025 08:33:00
    Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
    famous and successful African-Americans.

    Haven't heard about this one. Any examples that you could provide?

    Google "US renaming Tubman" to find something regarding the renaming of
    naval ships. IMHO, it was a little odd to name ships after civil
    rights leaders, social activists, and Supreme Court members who weren't in the Navy.

    That isn't saying that some of them, like Tubman, don't have a very
    significant place in our country's history, as they do, but I think it was
    a little weird they named a ship after Ruth Bader Ginsberg to begin with.
    That said, it was done and I don't really support spending the time,
    effort, and money on changing these things.

    They have also considered renaming a military base or two. Fort Cavazos,
    the former Ft Hood, is one that has been floated as up for a possible
    rename (back to Ft Hood). The person it was renamed after is a former
    military man -- a four star general -- so the name makes more sense. But, since he's hispanic (and Hood was CSA), having his name on it is "DEI."

    Also, is this like the previous administration removing all kinds of tributes/statues/memorials of famous and successful Southern-Americans
    from the Civil War era, because of what they stood for? Oh, and also
    like the renaming of military installations because they had
    "offensive" names?

    I didn't necessarily support the renaming of Ft. Hood but, now that it is
    done and (IMHO) it was renamed after someone deserving, I don't support changing it again. It was wasteful then and would be wasteful now.

    I'm not claiming reparations are the solution I'd choose, but the
    problem persists.

    What solution *would* you choose, pray tell? How, exactly, can this
    problem be "fixed"?

    I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government
    would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Saturday, June 07, 2025 19:26:13
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
    famous and successful African-Americans.

    Haven't heard about this one. Any examples that you could provide?

    Google "US renaming Tubman" to find something regarding the renaming of naval ships. IMHO, it was a little odd to name ships after civil
    rights leaders, social activists, and Supreme Court members who weren't
    in the Navy.

    Agreed, very odd. Not acceptable, even.

    That isn't saying that some of them, like Tubman, don't have a very significant place in our country's history, as they do, but I think it
    was a little weird they named a ship after Ruth Bader Ginsberg to begin with. That said, it was done and I don't really support spending the
    time, effort, and money on changing these things.

    Fully agree on the significance of Tubman, just not on the chosen method
    of recognition. No way that RBG gets that honor, other than DEI. I'm
    for changing both of those ship names. There are others, too - I
    recently saw something about the USS Harvey Milk being considered for re-naming also. Another 100% DEI thing, and should be un-done.

    They have also considered renaming a military base or two. Fort
    Cavazos, the former Ft Hood, is one that has been floated as up for a possible rename (back to Ft Hood). The person it was renamed after is
    a former military man -- a four star general -- so the name makes more sense. But, since he's hispanic (and Hood was CSA), having his name on
    it is "DEI."

    Just another un-doing of a mistake by Biden and company. Like it or
    not, the Civil War and the CSA are parts of our history.

    Also, is this like the previous administration removing all kinds of tributes/statues/memorials of famous and successful Southern-Americans
    from the Civil War era, because of what they stood for? Oh, and also
    like the renaming of military installations because they had
    "offensive" names?

    I didn't necessarily support the renaming of Ft. Hood but, now that it
    is done and (IMHO) it was renamed after someone deserving, I don't
    support changing it again. It was wasteful then and would be wasteful now.

    Send the bill to Biden.

    I'm not claiming reparations are the solution I'd choose, but the
    problem persists.

    What solution *would* you choose, pray tell? How, exactly, can this
    problem be "fixed"?

    I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could
    stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything
    on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.

    Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible. What isn't
    right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
    generations removed from anybody who was mistreated. "Correcting" a
    wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Sunday, June 08, 2025 10:47:00
    I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything
    on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.

    Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible. What isn't right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
    generations removed from anybody who was mistreated. "Correcting" a
    wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.

    Part of me feels that way, that they are generations removed. However,
    there is some belief in this country that the "wrongs" continued far beyond
    the Civil War. I would agree that they certainly continued until at least
    the Civil Rights Era of the 1960s.

    What has happened since then, until recently, I would place at the feet of
    our politicians (Democrats, too) who've spent their time benefiting from
    having a "downtrodden" class to manipulate... a class you cannot manipulate
    if they do not remain downtrodden.

    Recently, it seems that pre-1960s attitudes are being brought back into the mainstream. Not sure what has brought that on but it does need to stop.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 08, 2025 14:58:30
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.

    Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible. What isn't right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
    generations removed from anybody who was mistreated. "Correcting" a
    wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.

    Part of me feels that way, that they are generations removed. However, there is some belief in this country that the "wrongs" continued far beyond the Civil War. I would agree that they certainly continued
    until at least the Civil Rights Era of the 1960s.

    Yes, it's true that discrimination continued long after the Civil War,
    and to some extent is still happening today. But again it's a problem
    of who is to blame, and how to "correct" it. Not something easy to
    answer or solve.

    What has happened since then, until recently, I would place at the feet
    of our politicians (Democrats, too) who've spent their time benefiting from having a "downtrodden" class to manipulate... a class you cannot manipulate if they do not remain downtrodden.

    100% correct. It's like many of the bad things going on today... This,
    wars, tradewars, cold wars, more. There are always a small group of
    people who benefit tremendously from these things, and although they say otherwise, they WANT them to continue. Race relations (as you said
    above), and the RUS/UKR war are great examples. Lots of money being
    made by a few on both of these issues, and those people will not *LET*
    the issues end.

    Recently, it seems that pre-1960s attitudes are being brought back into the mainstream. Not sure what has brought that on but it does need to stop.

    I'm not so sure that I'm seeing this happen, at least around here.



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