• Good Older Fantasy & Sci-Fi Recommendations?

    From Foriest Jan Smith@VERT/NGMBBS to All on Thursday, May 08, 2025 02:14:37
    I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff. I do have an older copy of the Foundation Trilogy I've been meaning to try but I'm wondering if there's any other good sci-fi of the 50s-60s I should keep an eye out for (I have half a mind to look for more sci-fi pulp magazines, lol).

    On the same note, I've completely neglected Fantasy. I have yet to find ANY fantasy novels I like. A penpal sent me some ebooks of authors like Anne McCaffery, Brandon Sanderson, E.E. Knight, etc. I had already had some interest--having read some older short stories by Robert E. Howard (I'd love some recommendationso f those if you have any). But I'm mainly interested getting my hands on anything decent fantasy wise that isn't anime or Skyrim, lol.

    If anyone has any recommendations of either, I'm dying to know!

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Foriest Jan Smith on Thursday, May 08, 2025 20:26:00
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    I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own
    from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is
    what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff. I do
    have an older copy of the Foundation Trilogy I've been meaning to try
    but I'm wondering if there's any other good sci-fi of the 50s-60s I should keep an eye out for (I have half a mind to look for more sci-fi pulp magazines, lol).

    On the same note, I've completely neglected Fantasy. I have yet to find ANY fantasy novels I like. A penpal sent me some ebooks of authors like Anne McCaffery, Brandon Sanderson, E.E. Knight, etc. I had already had some interest--having read some older short stories by Robert E. Howard (I'd love some recommendationso f those if you have any). But I'm
    mainly interested getting my hands on anything decent fantasy wise that isn't anime or Skyrim, lol.

    If anyone has any recommendations of either, I'm dying to know!

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

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  • From Foriest Jan Smith@VERT/NGMBBS to Boraxman on Friday, May 09, 2025 03:29:49
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Foriest Jan Smith on Thu May 08 2025 20:26:00

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

    No, but I believe I've either read a few of his short stories or heard them on X Minus One. I've very much so been meaning to read Dune (after I eventually start on the Metro series!).

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Foriest Jan Smith on Thursday, May 08, 2025 20:44:00
    Hello Foriest Jan Smith!

    ** On Thursday 08.05.25 - 02:14, Foriest Jan Smith wrote to All:

    I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff...

    Dune [trilogy], by Herbert. The later stories are ok, but the
    meat of the adventure is in the 1st three.

    Brave New World, by Huxley.

    Ringworld, by Niven.


    On the same note, I've completely neglected Fantasy. I have yet to find ANY fantasy novels I like....

    First Law Trilogy, by Joe Abercrombie

    Kingkiller Chronicles (two books), by Patrick Rothfuss. The events in each book spans one day.

    The Gentleman Bastard series, by Scott Lynch. 1 = The Lies of
    Locke Lamora, 2 = Red Seas Under Red Skies, 3 = The Republic
    of Thieves



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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to BORAXMAN on Friday, May 09, 2025 09:23:16
    Quoting Boraxman to Foriest Jan Smith <=-

    If anyone has any recommendations of either, I'm dying to know!

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

    One of my favorites from Clarke is Rendezvous with Rama and it's
    sequels. Fascinating writing! Suspenseful SciFi (JMO).

    ... Back in my day, 56k was high speed!

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@VERT/PALANTIR to Foriest Jan Smith on Friday, May 09, 2025 08:48:18
    Foriest Jan Smith wrote to All <=-

    I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X

    One of my favorites is Thrice Upon a Time by James P. Hogan.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Foriest Jan Smith on Friday, May 09, 2025 06:49:27
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Foriest Jan Smith on Thu May 08 2025 20:26:00

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

    No, but I believe I've either read a few of his short stories or heard them on X Minus One. I've very much so been meaning to read Dune (after
    I eventually start on the Metro series!).

    Old Heinlein is good, he's definitely got some odd personal perspectives
    that he extrapolates into the future. Starship Troopers was a wonderful military science fiction story.

    Frederick Pohl wrote a series around a future where mankind finds an
    alien space station with lots of docked shuttles. People take the
    shuttles out and either die horrible deaths or become wealthy if they
    bring back scientific finds. Did I mention that they don't know how to
    operate the shuttles and are making instructions up as they go along?

    The second and third books delve into who made the shuttles and why they
    went into hiding.

    There's a series of books called the Science Fiction Hall of Fame

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_Fiction_Hall_of_Fame,_Volume_One,_1929%E2%80%931964

    has a great selection of short stories from SF authors from 1929 to
    1964. There's a followup with novellas as well.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Foriest Jan Smith on Friday, May 09, 2025 23:16:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Foriest Jan Smith
    on Thu May 08 2025 20:26:00

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

    No, but I believe I've either read a few of his short stories or heard them on X Minus One. I've very much so been meaning to read Dune (after
    I eventually start on the Metro series!).

    I read the book AFTER watching the 1984 movie, though admittedly I was
    still under 10 when I did watch the movie on TV.

    I would recommend not watching any further Dune movies until you go
    through the book.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Ogg on Friday, May 09, 2025 23:23:00
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    Hello Foriest Jan Smith!

    ** On Thursday 08.05.25 - 02:14, Foriest Jan Smith wrote to All:

    I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff...

    Dune [trilogy], by Herbert. The later stories are ok, but the
    meat of the adventure is in the 1st three.

    Brave New World, by Huxley.

    Ringworld, by Niven.

    *snip*

    Did you read any or the Ringworld sequels? I read the next one in the
    series, Ringworld Engineers. After that, not sure if its worthwhile
    to continue on.

    A great book, by Niven and Pournelle is "The Mote in God's Eye". This
    was quite thought provoking and raised questions about how our
    behaviour, our instincts doom us, make us resigned to a paricular
    fate.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Foriest Jan Smith on Friday, May 09, 2025 23:26:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Foriest Jan Smith
    on Thu May 08 2025 20:26:00

    Have you read much Arthur C Clarke? He probably is my favourite Sci
    Fi Author. I'm sure you've also read Dune?

    No, but I believe I've either read a few of his short stories or heard them on X Minus One. I've very much so been meaning to read Dune (after
    I eventually start on the Metro series!).

    Some of his longer works are based on short stories.

    I think Rendezvouz with Rama is a classic, as is Childhoods End. If
    you're only going to read one or two, these probably should be it.

    The "Oddysey" series were my introduction to Clarke.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Friday, May 09, 2025 11:16:14
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-Fi Recommendations?
    By: Ogg to Foriest Jan Smith on Thu May 08 2025 08:44 pm


    Dune [trilogy], by Herbert. The later stories are ok, but the
    meat of the adventure is in the 1st three.


    dune tattoo here on my bicep. anyways, those books get really really
    weird and convoluted.

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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Cougar428 on Friday, May 09, 2025 10:56:29
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Cougar428 to BORAXMAN on Fri May 09 2025 09:23 am

    ... Back in my day, 56k was high speed!

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry, couldn't help mysself.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Boraxman on Friday, May 09, 2025 19:56:00
    Hello Boraxman!

    ** On Friday 09.05.25 - 23:23, Boraxman wrote to Ogg:

    Ringworld, by Niven.

    *snip*

    Did you read any or the Ringworld sequels? I read the next
    one in the series, Ringworld Engineers. After that, not
    sure if its worthwhile to continue on.

    I seem to remember starting #2 (Ringworld Engineers) ..but I
    never finished it for some reason.

    And.. I didn't even realized that #3 (Ringworld Throne) even
    existed until now.


    A great book, by Niven and Pournelle is "The Mote in God's
    Eye". This was quite thought provoking and raised
    questions about how our behaviour, our instincts doom us,
    make us resigned to a paricular fate.

    That's another I remember starting. But I don't recall
    finishing it.


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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to BOGOMIPS on Saturday, May 10, 2025 11:58:22
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Cougar428 to BORAXMAN on Fri May 09 2025 09:23 am

    ... Back in my day, 56k was high speed!

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry,
    couldn't help mysself.

    Well - I guess I had it better, I had snow boots with holes in them so
    I had to wear bread bags on both feet so my feet wouldn't get wet. You
    got me beat!

    B^)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Cougar428 on Saturday, May 10, 2025 20:34:12
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Cougar428 to BOGOMIPS on Sat May 10 2025 11:58 am

    Well - I guess I had it better, I had snow boots with holes in them so
    I had to wear bread bags on both feet so my feet wouldn't get wet. You
    got me beat!


    i just used plastic shopping bags. kept the feet warm too!

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Bogomips on Saturday, May 10, 2025 18:36:20
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Bogomips to Cougar428 on Fri May 09 2025 10:56 am

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry, couldn't help mysse

    We didn't have these dang fangled "latex condoms". We just strapped a rabbit skin and tied it off with a bungee chord! Sure we couldn't feel the other person or ourselves, but WE LIKED IT!

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  • From Foriest Jan Smith@VERT/NGMBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, May 11, 2025 02:08:52
    Re: Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Foriest Jan Smith on Fri May 09 2025 06:49:27

    Old Heinlein is good, he's definitely got some odd personal perspectives

    Oh, I love Heinlein! I've read some great ones from him! There's one I read in a compilation ("Machines That Think") called Sam Hall that's my favorite so far.

    Frederick Pohl wrote a series around a future where mankind finds an
    alien space station with lots of docked shuttles. People take the
    shuttles out and either die horrible deaths or become wealthy if they
    bring back scientific finds. Did I mention that they don't know how to operate the shuttles and are making instructions up as they go along?

    Ooooh, sounds interesting! I'll DEFINITELY read it :D

    There's a series of books called the Science Fiction Hall of Fame

    Going right on the list!

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to MRO on Sunday, May 11, 2025 22:27:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-Fi
    Recommendations?
    By: Ogg to Foriest Jan Smith on
    Thu May 08 2025 08:44 pm


    Dune [trilogy], by Herbert. The later stories are ok, but the
    meat of the adventure is in the 1st three.


    dune tattoo here on my bicep. anyways, those books get really really weird and convoluted.

    What do you have tattooed? Just the word "Dune" or Sting semi-naked
    glistening in steam? Or perhaps the God Emperor in his worm form?


    The last three books do go off on a tangent, but God Emperor is worth
    the diversion. I liked it quite a bit more than Children of Dune.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Bogomips on Sunday, May 11, 2025 22:33:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Cougar428 to BORAXMAN on
    Fri May 09 2025 09:23 am

    ... Back in my day, 56k was high speed!

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry,
    couldn't help mysself.

    Those times were rough. Having to connect the 56K modem through the
    two soup cans. I don't know how you got 56K though, I could manage at
    most 2400 baud with the soup cans and string...

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Ogg on Sunday, May 11, 2025 22:34:00
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    Hello Boraxman!

    ** On Friday 09.05.25 - 23:23, Boraxman wrote to Ogg:

    Ringworld, by Niven.

    *snip*

    Did you read any or the Ringworld sequels? I read the next
    one in the series, Ringworld Engineers. After that, not
    sure if its worthwhile to continue on.

    I seem to remember starting #2 (Ringworld Engineers) ..but I
    never finished it for some reason.

    And.. I didn't even realized that #3 (Ringworld Throne) even
    existed until now.


    A great book, by Niven and Pournelle is "The Mote in God's
    Eye". This was quite thought provoking and raised
    questions about how our behaviour, our instincts doom us,
    make us resigned to a paricular fate.

    That's another I remember starting. But I don't recall
    finishing it.

    It starts off slow and uneventful, but really picks up about a third
    of the way through, as if the authors change...

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to phigan on Sunday, May 11, 2025 22:37:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Bogomips to Cougar428 on
    Fri May 09 2025 10:56 am

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry, couldn't help mysse

    We didn't have these dang fangled "latex condoms". We just strapped a rabbit skin and tied it off with a bungee chord! Sure we couldn't feel
    the other person or ourselves, but WE LIKED IT!

    I just use a garbage bag. Comes with the tie already on it, and it's
    just the right length.

    Now I know what you're thinking, that gross right? But rest assured,
    I DO empty the garbage from the bag first....

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Sunday, May 11, 2025 17:53:07
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun May 11 2025 10:27 pm


    What do you have tattooed? Just the word "Dune" or Sting semi-naked glistening in steam? Or perhaps the God Emperor in his worm form?

    i have a sandworm on my chest and it goes down below the belt like snake's tattoo in escape from new york.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Sunday, May 11, 2025 17:54:07
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Bogomips on Sun May 11 2025 10:33 pm

    Those times were rough. Having to connect the 56K modem through the
    two soup cans. I don't know how you got 56K though, I could manage at
    most 2400 baud with the soup cans and string...

    i had ONE guy that could connect to me at the max speed.
    everyone else connected slower. maybe it was something to do with the phone line route or our modems liked each other.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to PHIGAN on Sunday, May 11, 2025 21:35:56
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Bogomips to Cougar428 on Fri May 09 2025 10:56 am

    Back in my day, we walked to school uphill, both ways, in the snow, barefoot and communicated with two soup cans and a string. Sorry, couldn't help mysse

    We didn't have these dang fangled "latex condoms". We just strapped a rabbit skin and tied it off with a bungee chord! Sure we couldn't feel
    the other person or ourselves, but WE LIKED IT!

    Phi! Must everything devolve into sexual in-you-endo?

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Boraxman on Monday, May 12, 2025 18:12:46
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Bogomips on Sun May 11 2025 10:33 pm

    two soup cans. I don't know how you got 56K though, I could manage at
    most 2400 baud with the soup cans and string...

    Yeah, you need a mostly digital path with only the last hop being copper to get 56k.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 05:07:30
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun May 11 2025 10:27 pm

    The last three books do go off on a tangent, but God Emperor is worth
    the diversion. I liked it quite a bit more than Children of Dune.

    I also liked GE. In fact I re-read it last year just for the fun of it. I read most of the FH books in the 70's and 80's so it was refreshing to read some of his original work.

    I have read probably most of the BH books and liked a lot of them, but they aren't like the FH books...

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 05:08:50
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Bogomips on Sun May 11 2025 10:33 pm

    Those times were rough. Having to connect the 56K modem through the
    two soup cans. I don't know how you got 56K though, I could manage at
    most 2400 baud with the soup cans and string...

    Replace the string with steel fishing leader... works great!

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Bf2k+ on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 08:05:00
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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun
    May 11 2025 10:27 pm

    The last three books do go off on a tangent, but God Emperor is worth
    the diversion. I liked it quite a bit more than Children of Dune.

    I also liked GE. In fact I re-read it last year just for the fun of it.
    I read most of the FH books in the 70's and 80's so it was refreshing
    to read some of his original work.

    I have read probably most of the BH books and liked a lot of them, but they aren't like the FH books...

    Do you recommend Brians books? I've heard not so good things about them, and personally I don't really like "franchises", that is, milking a "universe" for all its got. If it didn't come from Frank Herberts original intention, then I can't see it as "canon".


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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 19:55:00
    Hello VERT/NGMBBS!Foriest.Jan.Smith!
    ** On Wednesday 07.05.25 - 20:14, VERT/NGMBBS!Foriest.Jan.Smith wrote to All:
    ... but I'm itching for more good stuff.
    How about the Salvation trilogy:
    Salvation: A Novel | Paperback
    Peter F Hamilton
    The Salvation Sequence # 1 (series)
    Random House Worlds | Del Rey
    Fiction / Science Fiction - Space Opera / Action & Adventure / Science Fiction - Space Exploration
    Published Jun 25, 2019
    "In the year 2204, humanity is expanding into the wider galaxy
    in leaps and bounds. Cutting-edge technology of linked jump
    gates has rendered most forms of transportation-including
    starships-virtually obsolete. Every place on Earth, every
    distant planet humankind has settled, is now merely a step away
    from any other. All seems wonderful-until a crashed alien
    spaceship of unknown origin is found on a newly located world
    eighty-nine light-years from Earth, carrying a cargo as strange
    as it is horrifying. To assess the potential of the threat, a
    high-powered team is dispatched to investigate. But one of
    them may not be all they seem. . . ."

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Boraxman on Wednesday, May 14, 2025 17:19:30
    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to Bf2k+ on Wed May 14 2025 08:05 am

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    Re: Good Older Fantasy & Sci-
    By: Boraxman to MRO on Sun
    May 11 2025 10:27 pm

    The last three books do go off on a tangent, but God Emperor is worth
    the diversion. I liked it quite a bit more than Children of Dune.

    I also liked GE. In fact I re-read it last year just for the fun of it. I read most of the FH books in the 70's and 80's so it was refreshing to read some of his original work.

    I have read probably most of the BH books and liked a lot of them, but they aren't like the FH books...

    Do you recommend Brians books? I've heard not so good things about them, and personally I don't really like "franchises", that is, milking a "universe" for all its got. If it didn't come from Frank Herberts original intention, then I can't see it as "canon".

    Well... it's been a long time since I read a BH book... at least 10-15 years. I really don't remember them very well so it would be hard to specify one. I remember liking the one where they moved some sandworms to another place... was that 'Sandworms of Dune'? I think that was the last one I read. I don't recognize any of the titles after that one.

    But then at my age now, the RAM chips don't refesh like they used to...

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